Penalty Time -> 2G to 3G

hi,

here are the most important parameters… and my recommendations. Feel free to challenge them, or to discuss them, because I can’t be certain those will work in your particular network.

EN_2G_TO_3G_CELL_RESELECTION = 1: Enabled with 3G search activated while the UE/MS is in GMM ready state
* to allow the 3G reselection *

EN_COMPRESSED_INTER_RAT_INFO = 1 : enable
* to reduce signalling load *

EN_CPICH_2G_3G_RESELECTION = 1: CPICH Ec/No and RSCP measurements must be used
* to ensure both level and C/I of the 3G are good *

EN_FAST_3G_RESELECTION = 1:only fast 3G cell reselection at 2G CS call release is used.
* up to you, use it (1) or don’t (0) *

FDD_GPRS_Qoffset = 10dB
* when the MS is in GPRS PTM, it can reselect 3G cells which are 10dB better than 2G serving cell only. With such setting, the 3G reselection must be very difficult * * default = -32dB*

FDD_Qoffset = -10dB
* when the MS is in idle mode, it can reselect 3G cells with level(3G) > level(2G) – 10dB. With such setting, the 3G reselection must be more difficult than before * * default = -32dB*

FDD_Qmin = -6dB
FDD_Qmin_Offset = -4dB
* reselection only to 3G cells where Ec/No > -6dB (for pre R5 MS) or where Ec/No > -10dB (for post R5 MS) * (default = -12dB for all MS)

FDD_RSCPmin = -95dBm
* reselection only to 3G cells with RSCP > -95dBm * (default = -102dBm)

Qsearch_I (Idle mode / not GPRS attached) = Always (value 7)
Qsearch_P (GPRS PIM) = Always (value 7)
Qsearch_P_PTM (GPRS PTM) = Always (value 7)

* when would the MS start looking for 3G cells… this is very special, I’ll let you look it up by yourself.. I recommend the value “always” in your case, to avoid a roblem. But you can optimize this value. When the MS stops looking for 3G cell, it saves battery !! So you could for example force the MS to search for 3G cell only when the 2G level is less than -74dBm (value 6), or only when the 2G level is better than -70dBm (value 10. It so strongly depends on your network design that I can’t recommend anything else than “always” 🙂 *

Enjoy 🙂 (these are very precious advices, for customers…)

Cheers
pix

Thanks Loads Pix !!

But I also forgot to mention that our equipment is Ericsson . . .

Any idea abt their parameters or the ones quotes by you are generic?

many Thanks

Hi Pix,

PLZ the UE come from 3g to 2g, it will be in which status? idle, PIM or PTM?
because i’m facing same Pb as “Optim”, so do you have an idea how to avoid the UE reselection back to 3g when he came from 3G cell?

thx

Hi Pix,

Just to clarify that, below you cited different 2G ALU parameters for 2g-3g reselection, what I’m trying to do is to make the reselection from 2g to 3g difficult and that by changing the “FDD_Qoffset” and “FDD_GPRS_Qoffset” value.
But i am confused, which one of previous parameters should i change? the 1srt is for MS in idle mode and the 2nd is for MS in PTM (transfer mode), that’s why i asked you previously in which status the UE will be after IRAT PS handover from3g to 2g?

PLZ clarify this point
Many thx

Hi Pix,

Could you confirm if following 2g to 3g cell reselection (in idle or in packet transfer mode) can impact 2G KPI (CDR, CSSR, and traffic), because we are facing a degradation on some cells after changing these parmaters:

– En2gTo3gCellReselection 1
– En2gTo3gtddCellReselection 0
– EnCpich2g3gReselection 1
– EnFast3gReselection 1
– FddMultiratReporting 2
– FddQminOffset 0 dBm
– FddReportingOffset 0
– FddReportingThreshold 0
– FddRscpmin -114 dBm
– QsearchC -70: Always search for 3G neighbour cells
– QsearchI -70: Always search for 3G neighbour cells
– QsearchP -70: Always search for 3G neighbour cells
– ACmbFDD_Qmin -12dB
– ACmbFDD_Qoffset -32: Always select a 3G cell if possible
– AGprsFddGprsQoffset -32: Always select a 3G cell if possible
– AGprsQsearchPPtm -70: Always search for 3G neighbour cells

Thx

hi,

I’ll see what I have & send u email.

regards
pix

Hi,

Please i have an issue with 2G-3G cell reselection. If an MS is on 2G, it stays there even if the radio conditions for 3G are good.

Any ideas?