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  • 1st May 2010 at 13:23 #62457
    Bibbo
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    can you please explain what is inband signalling?

    Thanks in advance

    1st May 2010 at 13:34 #62458
    pix
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    hello,
    in band signalling means that the signalling is transmitted along with the data : it doesn’t require a separate channel.

    out of band signalling : TCH & SACCH. TCH carries voice, SACCH carries signalling. 2 different (logical) channels.

    in band signalling : speech frames and TFO. The TFO signalling is sent in the headers of the speech frames.

    cheers
    pix

    1st May 2010 at 20:56 #62459
    Bijoy
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    Just for info,
    In case of AMR,To be able to perform the codec mode adaptation the receiving side performs quality measurements on the incoming link. This measurement results in a Quality Indicator. The Quality Indicator produced on the MS side is converted to a Mode Request that is sent to the BTS using inband signalling. There, a codec mode control entity selects the codec mode to be used on the downlink, based on the Mode Request sent by the MS.

    The codec mode control entity also selects the codec mode to be used on the uplink, based on the Quality Indicator produced in the BTS. The selected uplink mode is sent inband to the MS. The presently applied codec mode is also sent in band both uplink and downlink. This mode indication is sent every second speech frame and the Mode Request (uplink)/Mode Command (downlink) is sent in the speech frames in between.

    In band messages:

    UL: Mode Request (2 bits per speech frame, giving a suggestion of a DL codec mode)
    UL: Mode Indication (2 bits per speech frame, giving the present UL codec mode)
    DL: Mode Command (2 bits per speech frame, telling the MS which UL codec mode to use)
    DL: Mode Indication (2 bits per speech frame, giving the present DL codec mode)

    Br\\
    Bijoy

    2nd May 2010 at 07:00 #62460
    Bibbo
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    Thanks for your quick response

    Pix, the next question, i searched TFO in the net and in some documents, so what is the main purpose of using TFO, is it used for adaptating codecs

    thanks a lot again for sharing your experience

    2nd May 2010 at 09:12 #62461
    paraHO
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    Bibbo

    Did you maybe refer to the Standards GSM08_series?

    e.g.

    GSM 08.62: ” Digital cellular telecommunications system; Inband Tandem Free Operation (TFO) of Speech Codecs

    See GSM08.62 Cl4 Principles of Tandem Free Operation

    Also, have a look at GSM08.60 and see erlang com/forum/erlang/thread.htx?thread=5987

    BR

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