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GPRS_UL_TBF_Establishment_Fail

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  • #49762
    pix
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    yogesh,

    no ! the GAMMA & ALPHA don’t work this way at all (or maybe you didn’t explain it clearly enough for me).

    please refer to the formula i posted a few posts before.

    #49763
    lily
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    Hello, all!!
    Hello, Pix!
    I just want to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

    I faced the problem described below (low TBF_est_successful_rate_UL for all cells in BSC, when in DL everything was OK). During 4 days for 6 BSCs enormous GPRS KPI degradation was detected (all BSCs had same symptoms). We performed all usual manipulations, but – in vain (also reset GPUs, even changing them).
    We were ready to initiate FaultReport to our TAC, but then I’ve decided to find something in erlang.com…
    … After deactivating PC for GPRS (set ALPHA to 0 and GAMMA to 0) our problem was solved!!!!

    :))

    #49764
    Pix
    Guest

    I hope that your team will build a statue in my honour, right in the middle of your office :))

    #49765
    Bijoy
    Guest

    hi guys
    what i got from this whole discussion that you guys have set the alpha & gamma incorrectly.i dont know,but have u checked for any bsc level gps pc parametrs.
    i’ve worked in ericson,nokia,huawe,zte & motorola systems(except alu),but never found such a solution

    #49766
    Pix
    Guest

    Bijoy,

    ALU system is rather temperamental, and some problems have a weird solution sometimes 🙂
    you can set alpha and gamma correctly, it works for years. Then suddenly, a BSC shows UL TBF estab failures. Only way to decrease it (quickly) is to disable alpha and gamma.

    there’s magic in the air…

    #49767
    lily
    Guest

    Hello, Pix!
    Hello, Bijoi!
    Bijoi, as Pix said it’s “unusual” solution, but it really works! Today I’ve changed back ALPHA and GAMMA but problem hasn’t appeared again 🙂 such a little trick!

    … yes, Pix, on a pedestal just in the middle of our main office. And every morning all engineers from operational department will pray at it with words: “bless us to work with ALU HW, give us defense from Misalignments and VSWR etc….”
    Before difficult and especially danger works (like moving BSC from MSC to MSC or something like this 🙂 we’ll make sacrifice (oh, what kind would you prefer?) to propitiate formidable prophet 🙂
    What do you think? :)))
    I wouldn’t be surprised that after such actions our network will work better 🙂 As you said, ALU equipment is “rather temperamental” 🙂

    #49768
    Pix
    Guest

    A good sacrifice… mmm… burn a Huawei BTS every morning 🙂

    #49769
    ahmad
    Guest

    hi all ,

    am a NOC enginner , could you plz explain more about alpha & gamma, where i can find them , and what a recomended value for them?
    our vendor is huawei & ZTE.

    ahmad

    #49770
    lily
    Guest

    Good morning Pix

    … two huawei BTS and two huawei sales managers every morning 🙁

    …yesterday they persented “grandiose” project for our company – swap BSS from Alcatel/Siemens to huawei … hr-r-r …
    Fortunately they got a unambiguous refusal yesterday, but their persistent was very irritating
    so – 2 BTS + 2 managers :))))

    #49771
    Pix
    Guest

    Lily,

    That’s good news 😉 By the way, a GSM trainer will come give a training to your company next year. But that won’t be me…

    I understood that 3G is on the way in your company ?

    #49772
    lily
    Guest

    Good evening, Pix!

    Oh, we’re looking forward to this training :)))) Very very pity that it won’t be you…
    But things may change 🙂 I hope that it will happen and we we’ll have possibility to say “thanks a million” to you personally :))))

    Yes, we’ve started deploying 3G-network (1xEVDO as CDMA-450) on Alcatel-Lucent equipment :)))

    Have a nice evening!
    …in Alcatel we trust…

    #49773
    RG
    Guest

    Hello, all

    I am facing the problem of high downlnk data and signal TBF failure.

    Formula defined for TBF Failure is : TBF Abnormal Release / TBF Establish.

    Pls recommend what i need to do.

    Also pls tell me about the power control strategy (Open, Closed and Quality based)

    Best Regards

    #49774
    K
    Guest

    Hello Master

    I still have problem many cell.
    (BSS B10 already set ALPHA to 0 and GAMMA to 0) but when disable BH to NH ,problem was fixed
    pls explain.

    Thank you

    #49775
    Pix
    Guest

    K,

    Sometimes, just by resetting the cell, it will jumpstart the GPRS.
    I can’t explain neither.

    #49776
    bill
    Guest

    hey Pix!

    can you please explain what are the usual reasons for TBF drop rate in siemens equipment? what performance parameters to check for correction?

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