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  • 7th August 2009 at 16:40 #48288
    manoj shrestha
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    Can anybody help me to calculate the bandwidth occupied on E1 say if the site is configured with only one trx, when the tranmission on the Abis interface is ip based.

    21st August 2009 at 04:27 #48289
    Jonathan_kisar
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    Hi all,
    I would like to know the Abis configuration if we have 1 + 2 PDTCH in Um interface.
    is it still possible with 15 : 1 configuration?
    Can anyone explain to me this?
    Cheers,

    Jo

    16th November 2009 at 05:19 #48290
    Muhammad Atif
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    Does any one who can guid me which standard deals with mapping of TRX an an E1 ?

    8th December 2009 at 11:19 #48291
    ds
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    Hi,

    1+2 PDTCH are mapped/defined on TRX on Um interface.
    E1 are on Abis interface, so thereis no mapping of PDTCH on E1.
    It is the timeslots that you give for EDGE services that are mapped on Abis E1s and that is customer specific.

    correct me if im wrong.

    rgrds,
    Ds

    8th December 2009 at 12:17 #48292
    Pix
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    DS,

    All radio timeslots are mapped to equivalent throughput on the Abis.

    For example :
    1 TCH = 1 Abis nibble
    1 PDCH = n Abis nibble (PDCH throughput can range from 8kb/s to 59kb/s so need more than 1 nibble to carry all that !)

    As a rule of thumb:
    4 TRX require 1 ABIS TS to signalling
    1 TRX require 2 ABIS TS for data (TCH & PDCH)
    And for PDCH, you can define additional ABIS TS to allow bigger throughputs to users & allow more users at the same time.

    1 BTS 3 cells at 4 TRX each = 3 + 24 = 27 ABIS TS for sig + TCH.
    You can add 4 ABIS TS for EGPRS, to fill up the whole 31 ABIS TS available.

    Cheers,
    pix

    9th December 2009 at 05:35 #48293
    Ds
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    Thanks Pix,

    Abis ts for data is not fixed, it can vary as per vendor specs or to increase throughput.
    there is no one to one correlation b/w PDTCH on Um n Abis ts for data on Abis E1.
    (correct me if im wrong)

    one doubt in ur explanation as im not familiar with these terms.

    1 Abis TS = 1 Abis nibble??
    wat i understood is,
    1 Abis TS is 64kbps ts on Abis E1
    1 Abis nibble is 16kbps ts i.e 1/4 of 1 Abis TS.

    9th December 2009 at 06:18 #48294
    Pix
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    I agree with all you just said 🙂

    abis TS = 64kbps
    abis Nibble = 16kbps

    PDCH is carried over n abis Nibbles.
    The abis nibbles that carry the PDCHs are called “GCH” (in ALU).

    Cheers
    pix

    9th December 2009 at 07:03 #48295
    asashi
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    so if thats the case, 1 TRX = 1 Abis nibble?

    9th December 2009 at 17:18 #48296
    Pix
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    I wrote
    “1 TRX require 2 ABIS TS”

    Why do you say 1 nibble ?

    1 TRX carries 8 radio TS.
    Each radio TS (16kbps) is connected to 1 ABIS nibble (16kbps).
    Therefore, 1 TRX = 8 radio TS = 8 Abis Nibble = 2 Abis TS.

    Read slowly 🙂

    You know, I just found out that an easy way to compute how many Abis TS are needed for a BTS (the minimum number, that is).
    # of Abis TS = 2.25 x # of TRX

    It took me years to finally discover this simple method. Dumb & Dumber & Pix (the Dumbest).

    10th December 2009 at 02:22 #48297
    asashi
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    sorry pix, what i mean is

    1 TRX = 1 Abis nibble for signalling – 16kpbs(LAPD).

    10th December 2009 at 04:56 #48298
    Ammar
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    Pix,
    If we have 7 16kbps TRX and one 64kbps TRX then how we can calculate by this formula

    # of Abis TS = 2.25 x # of TRX

    Does we take no of TRX 7 or 8

    10th December 2009 at 09:33 #48299
    Pix
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    The formula is based on the assumption that the RSL (signalling) for 1 TRX is only 16kbps in average.

    So you can locate 4 TRX into one Abis Timeslot (there is multiplexing and dynamic sharing of the 64kbps : each TRX could go up to 64kbps if other TRXs are not sending RSL at that time)

    Amman, your case does not follow the assumption.

    pix

    11th December 2009 at 07:01 #48300
    ds
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    hi Pix,

    U wrote that “there is multiplexing and dynamic sharing of the 64kbps : each TRX could go up to 64kbps if other TRXs are not sending RSL at that time”.

    can u explain this as wat i understand this 16 kbps is dedicated for that particular TRX.
    is there any case/feature in which this sharing happens or its default.

    11th December 2009 at 19:12 #48301
    Pix
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    It is not default… Every time you create a BTS, you must choose where and how you carry your RSLs over the Abis. Several possibilities (depending on vendors)
    – each RSL gets static 16kbps
    – each RSL gets static 32 kbps
    – each RSL gets static 64kbps (i think it exists, i’m not sure)
    – 4 RSL share 64kbps (dynamic)
    – 2 RSL share 64 kbps (dynamic)

    Most common conf is the dynamic 4RSL/64kbps
    It is just that the 4 RSL of 4 TRXs are multiplexed over a shared capacity of 64kbps.
    Each one is not statically allocated 16kbps : the sharing is dynamically computed, depending on needs of each RSL.

    -pix

    27th December 2009 at 08:03 #48302
    Sardar Khaleeq uz Zaman
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    Hi everyone,

    Can any body tell me the full capacity and spare capacity of

    1. BTS
    2. ABIS Interface
    3. A Interface
    4. Ater Interface

    & what physical links are used in these interfaces i-e (frame relay, microwave, ATM, X.25 etc)…

    can anybody send me the pdf or docs of these.

    Thanks

    sardarkhaleeq24@yahoo.com

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